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13-10-2020 20:24:55

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Bonsoir à tous :

Les blocs de mousse dont vous parlez est également en vente là :
https://www.geant-beaux-arts.fr/sculptu … leger.html

J'en ai plusieurs blocs, je ne suis pas un expert du tournage de flotteurs comme vous dont je suis très admiratif de vos réalisations, mais ça se tourne sans problème.

Ma difficulté est d'arriver à obtenir une surface lisse après avoir mis le bouche pores ; vernis acrylique + talc ainsi que d'arriver à tourner sur des petites quilles de moins de 0,8.


Mieux vaut être bourré que con, ça dure moins longtemps.....

Les touches à la pêche c'est comme les hémorroïdes,
c'est pas parce que tu les vois pas que t'en as pas !

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14-10-2020 07:30:05

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Merci Dimitri pour le lien  cool 
Pour avoir une surface lisse , il faut avant le bouche pores , poncer légèrement au 1500 de carrossier à l'eau,
ensuite tu peut te servir comme bouche pores d'un vernis acrylique assez épais , que tu passes au pinceau ou au trempage .
L'important , c'est de ne pas hésiter à passer plusieurs couches , a surcharger pour boucher les cellules .
Ce n'est pas grave , car ensuite tu vas à nouveau les poncer avec le même papier à l'eau , et tu ponces jusqu'a ce que
la surface soit parfaitement lisse , prête à peindre . Au final , tu verras que tu as enlevé 90/100 de vernis que tu avais apporté ,
donc ton flotteur n'est pas surchargé . Tu essai , et tu me tiens au courant ? S'il te plait , merci .  original


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14-10-2020 15:01:37

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

néné81 a écrit:

Merci Dimitri pour le lien  cool 
Pour avoir une surface lisse , il faut avant le bouche pores , poncer légèrement au 1500 de carrossier à l'eau,
ensuite tu peut te servir comme bouche pores d'un vernis acrylique assez épais , que tu passes au pinceau ou au trempage .
L'important , c'est de ne pas hésiter à passer plusieurs couches , a surcharger pour boucher les cellules .
Ce n'est pas grave , car ensuite tu vas à nouveau les poncer avec le même papier à l'eau , et tu ponces jusqu'a ce que
la surface soit parfaitement lisse , prête à peindre . Au final , tu verras que tu as enlevé 90/100 de vernis que tu avais apporté ,
donc ton flotteur n'est pas surchargé . Tu essai , et tu me tiens au courant ? S'il te plait , merci .  original

Salut Néné,

Merci beaucoup pour ces précisions, je pense comprendre que mon mélange vernis + talc doit être un peu trop liquide et que je ne dois pas assez poncer. Je vais ré essayer précisément comme tu l'as expliqué.
J'ouvrirai un sujet pour poster mes premiers flotteurs et pour ne pas polluer le sujet de pike.
Merci Néné


Mieux vaut être bourré que con, ça dure moins longtemps.....

Les touches à la pêche c'est comme les hémorroïdes,
c'est pas parce que tu les vois pas que t'en as pas !

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30-10-2020 16:25:50

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Bonjour à tous,

J'ai finalement commandé de la nouvelle mousse polyuréthane pour "sculpture", similaire à celle du mail de Dimitri
Finalement je pense qu'elle est mieux que la Polydis, propre et bulles plus petites
Le conditionnement est moins bien par contre , des petits blocs

le résultat n'est pas mal

https://i.ibb.co/7SZcn7J/cof.jpg

On va avoir pas mal de temps pour faire des flotteurs en cette fin d'année  biggrin

Bon we

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30-10-2020 21:52:14

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Joli Pike , bien joué  cool 😍😍


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12-12-2020 18:03:10

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les flotteuristes, et les tourneurs,

J'ai un petit pb avec ma CNC , lorsque la partie droite est usinée a l'opposé de l'entraineur, le toron de mousse a tendance a se déplacer et à sortir un peu des pinoches
est ce que vous avez deja eu ce phénomène ?
Pb de vitesse de rotation ?, de précision de l'alignement des broches ? d'un axe un peu tordu
, de la position des entraineur ?

https://i.ibb.co/ncDhMJz/cof.jpg

Merci de votre aide

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13-12-2020 12:21:48

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut Pike
Non , je n'ai jamais eu ce problème , mais il est vrai que mon tour n'est pas un CNC ,
mais il te faut le charger manuellement quand même , lorsque je le charge , je vais en butée avec le toron ,
puis , avec la molette sur la contrepointe , qui est faite pour faire avancer celle ci , je fais un ou deux tours ,
ce qui met une pression plus importante sur le toron , si j'ai pu t'aider , j'en serais ravi , !! Passes de bonnes fêtes ,
et prends soin de toi , A+


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14-12-2020 12:33:54

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut Néné, merci pour ta réponse,

le déplacement a lieu quand la partie a l'opposé du flotteur est terminée,
il doit donc y avoir qque chose qui entraine le toron dans cette direction,
j'ai essayé de réduire la vitesse d'entrainement mais ce n'est pas trop concluant
mes pinoches sont peut être trop courtes
en attendant je laisse un peu plus de matière et ca solutionne le pb

on attends la suite de tes flotteurs à antenne interchangeable  cool

Merci

Bonnes fêtes

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14-12-2020 23:24:20

Pat85/95
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Vouais on attend   Hibernénétus     laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh


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15-12-2020 08:45:17

néné81
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Pour le moment , je ne peut pas y travailler , mais , je verrais ça en début d'année , j'en suis aux essais de tournage ,
il faut une précision absolue , un réglage très fin , je ne vous oublie pas , je posterais la suite au mois de Janvier 2021 .
Je vous souhaite à tous de très bonnes fêtes de Noël et de fin d'année   cool  cool  cool


celui qui se perd dans sa passion, à moins perdu que celui qui à perdu sa passion .
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16-12-2020 10:48:07

jibé
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

pike1510 a écrit:

Salut Néné, merci pour ta réponse,

le déplacement a lieu quand la partie a l'opposé du flotteur est terminée,
il doit donc y avoir qque chose qui entraine le toron dans cette direction,
j'ai essayé de réduire la vitesse d'entrainement mais ce n'est pas trop concluant
mes pinoches sont peut être trop courtes
en attendant je laisse un peu plus de matière et ca solutionne le pb

on attends la suite de tes flotteurs à antenne interchangeable  cool

Merci

Bonnes fêtes

Pike

http://ludopeche.blogspot.com/

Pinoches trop courtes oui probablement et trop cylindriques aussi.
en les rallongeant, et en les meulant comme une panne plate de tournevis,
perpendiculaires à l'axe de tournage, tu devrais résoudre tes soucis.


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31-12-2020 11:32:14

pike1510
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les maniacs,
Voila les derniers de l'année

https://i.ibb.co/t258qmB/cof.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/N7rgpcR/cof.jpg

Je vous souhaite à tous de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et le meilleur pour 2021

Pike

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12-03-2021 13:51:37

pike1510
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les maniacs flotteuristes, si il en reste encore ici  crying

est ce que quelqu’un a déjà essayer de commander du rohacell sur ce site ?

https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/

le prix a l'air intéressant

a+

Pike


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13-03-2021 07:30:53

rellik
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Non et je trouve les prix assez prohibitif, même si avec une plaque on peut faire des milliers de flotteurs :

En 71 IG-F : 1250x625x20 = 151.79€. Donc si tu en prends 2 ça te revient à 303,60€ et chez AbaquePlast tu en aurais pour 390€.

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13-03-2021 14:57:46

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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Je trouve ce type de Rohacell assez grossier. Les cellules sont relativement grandes. Il vaut mieux prendre le HF.
Les cellules HF sont de taille microscopique. Cela facilite le collage car la surface est plus lisse.


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14-03-2021 10:35:54

Nanar79
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Ronald a écrit:

Je trouve ce type de Rohacell assez grossier. Les cellules sont relativement grandes. Il vaut mieux prendre le HF.
Les cellules HF sont de taille microscopique. Cela facilite le collage car la surface est plus lisse.

Entièrement d'accord avec toi Ronald, c'est celui que j'utilise
grace à toi... Merci encore


A bientôt sur PecheManiac ou sur mon site
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14-03-2021 11:02:46

pike1510
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les survivants du forums,

merci pour vos commentaires,
j'ai passé commande ce matin pour tester,
ce que je trouve bien c'est qu'il y a moyen d'avoir des blocs de taille raisonnable et de ne pas payer une fortune de port
je vous dirai ce que je pense de la qualité
bon we
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15-03-2021 13:04:58

néné81
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Date d'inscription: 05-07-2012
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les Amis
Bon encore en mode Nénéhibernation  tongue
Mais je vous suis de près .....


celui qui se perd dans sa passion, à moins perdu que celui qui à perdu sa passion .
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21-07-2021 21:04:15

pike1510
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Date d'inscription: 05-01-2014
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les maniacs,

quelques poires , pour la soif  biggrin

en rohacell IG-F

Vous aviez raison , c'est pas le top comme mousse  crying , mais on s'arrange quand même


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22-07-2021 02:58:54

rellik
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Date d'inscription: 03-01-2014
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Ca reste très propore pour des corps tournés avec du IG-F.

Et juste pour en savoir un peu plus concernant le tarif et les FDP des plaques de Rohacell. Tu as pris quoi et pour combien en tout ?

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22-07-2021 12:03:04

pike1510
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Date d'inscription: 05-01-2014
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut,

Mélange talc/vernis en guise de bouche pore pour boucher les cellules.

J'avais acheté deux plaques de 20mm ici : https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Rohace … -Foam-Core
c'est au UK, donc attention au brexit et aux frais de douane

honnêtement en final , ça vaut pas le coup, il vaut mieux prendre du polyuréthane

Pike

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26-11-2021 12:34:39

pike1510
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Re: Encore des flotteurs

Salut les maniacs survivants  original ,

quelques petits modèles usinés en cette fin de saison

https://i.ibb.co/crkStQQ/cof.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/jw1bWD7/cof.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/K730hDB/cof.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/myhyw1J/cof.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/p13SbTr/cof.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/GR1ZfQh/cof.jpg

Bonne fin d'année a tous

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26-11-2021 13:43:29

jacky 93
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Date d'inscription: 25-08-2013

Re: Encore des flotteurs

De véritables bijoux..!!


« Je suis ancien combattant, militant socialiste et bistrot…C'est dire si, dans ma vie, j'en ai entendu, des conneries. »

M.AUDIARD - Un idiot à Paris

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26-11-2021 16:02:47

pascal42
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Date d'inscription: 05-11-2006

Re: Encore des flotteurs

magnifique !


Qui persévère n'ira pas à la pêche !

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26-11-2021 21:10:18

barbio08
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Date d'inscription: 24-09-2017

Re: Encore des flotteurs

bien vu les derniers,un plombage sur antenne,ça doit être mortel

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