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29-01-2021 12:24:05

Manni
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Amorce Kedlabonne

Dans le post sur les premières carpes de l' année ( http://www.pechemaniac.com/forums/viewt … 4#p1111314 ) je vous ai parlé de l' amorce à capes de mon pote Kedlagrosse  .
Il en a donné la formule : une part de chènevis moulu , une part de pellets broyés et une part de babycorn moulu .

On peut discuter du fait que la carpe est un poisson plus réactif à l' agrainage qu' à la farine mais je veux modestement développer quelques points :

En hiver , le poisson bouge peu . Il est admis qu' en dessous d' une température de l' eau de 4 ° la carpe entre en léthargie . Nos modestes expériences nous amènent à penser que le poisson bouge quand même mais sur des périodes courtes et à des endroits particuliers . Et pas forcément dans les zones les plus  profondes comme on le dit couramment .

Une amorce inerte est certes peu attirante et c' est là que l' amorce Kedlabonne est intéressante grâce aux différents éléments que la composent :

- Les pellets broyés ( attention , pas la farine de pellets ) ne méritent pas de longs développements car ils ont depuis logtemps fait la preuve de leur efficacité . Signalons quand même qu' ils sont en quantité modeste et sous forme de petites particules grasses  .

- Le babycorn moulu est très intéressant . Il n' est pas cher et est facile à trouver . C' est un avis personnel mais je pense que le poisson apprécie son gout légèrement vanillé . Mémoire génétique ? Ou simplement parce que les carpes d' élevage y ont déjà goûté pendant leur période de nourrissage ?
Je l' utilise beaucoup en carpodrome dans sa forme gros granulé au pellet waggler ou à la pêche à la descente et j' ai constaté que contrairement aux pellets classiques , le poisson lorsqu' il est devenu méfiant y revient . Il le prend très discrètement à la descente , le goûte , le relâche puis le reprend .
Dans sa forme broyée il est très polyvalent car selon la façon qu' on a de l' humidifier il est plus ou moins collant . Denis le mouille la veille avec de l' eau chaude et son amorce , suivant la façon dont on la serre peut aller du très facile à sortir de la cage au carrément collant parfait pour le method feeder ou la pêche dans le courant .
On peut si on le souhaite y adjoindre des esches en quantité comme avec la fameuse double terre des anglais .

- Enfin le chènevis qui mérite une attention particulière .
Il doit être le plus frais possible . Donc avoir gardé son gout et surtout son huile qui a un rôle capital . Pour le comprendre il suffit de jeter une boule bien serrée et de constater que l' amorce travaille instantanément : des particules s' échappent et montent régulièrement a la surface . Ce sont les cosses des graines de chènevis et les gouttelettes d' huile . Tout ceci rend cette amorce si attirante pour un poisson léthargique .
Mon pote le moud et le conserve au congélateur pour qu' il ne sèche pas .

Voilà .
J' écris sous son contrôle  et j' espère qu'il ne sera pas trop sévère avec ma prose et qu' il vous donnera  d' autres infos car il l' utilise depuis longtemps .
Tchuss !


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Donnez un poisson à un homme et il mangera une journée.
Apprenez-lui à pêcher et il passera ses journées dans une barque à boire de la bière.

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29-01-2021 13:25:07

kedlagrosse
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Date d'inscription: 13-12-2003

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Petites precisions :
Le chènevis , les pellets et le babycorn ne sont pas moulu mais broyés.
Broyés ensemble pour sortir du moulin à la même granulométrie que je souhaite à 1,5 mm ( tamis Retsch normalisé)

Le chènevis est de la dernière récolte 2020 , de chez un cultivateur du 72 ( putain de Charcot 😢)
Les pellets sont à 50% de protéine + vitamines , spéciaux grossissement en pisciculture.
Le babycorn sont 100& babycorn 😜

Tout le reste du roman Manniesque est parfait en termes de précision et de justesse. Je valide !

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29-01-2021 15:05:12

jano62
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Quelle chance de connaître un producteur de chenevis ! 
Simple et top ce mélange !

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29-01-2021 16:27:26

rellik
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Simple mais efficace original

Et on peut facilement s'en servir de base pour autre chose.

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29-01-2021 19:39:18

Jack28
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Date d'inscription: 27-03-2013

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Sur la léthargie des carpes en hiver

Il est clair qu’en hiver les carpes se tiennent sur le fond en privilégiant les endroits plutôt profonds car moins sensibles au variations de température.

Concernant leur alimentation, tout dépens des ressources du plan d’eau :

- Si leur alimentation principale est constituée de crustacés, mollusques...présents l’hiver dans leur environnement, elles peuvent continuer à s’alimenter presque normalement et sans perdre de poids. En conséquence, elles restent actives.

- Dans le cas contraire, si le plan d’eau ne produit de la nourriture naturelle qu’à partir du printemps, les carpes, sans apports extérieurs, maigrissent et peuvent perdre jusqu’à 15 % de leur poids. Dans ces conditions, leur métabolisme de base fonctionne très au ralenti, à l’instar d’une personne en grève de la faim. Ce n’est qu’au printemps, lorsque les eaux commencent à se réchauffer et que leur métabolisme se remet en marche qu’elles recommencent à mordre, à partir semble-t-il de 10 à 12 degrés (t° de l’eau).

- Dans tous les cas, si les carpes ont la chance de pouvoir bénéficier régulièrement de nourriture apportée par l’homme (granulés d’élevage, maïs, pellets, graines), elles peuvent même rester en compétition alimentaire au cœur de l’hiver.

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29-01-2021 23:40:57

Manni
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Ce que tu dis est très intéressant .
Les carpes que nous avons prises cet hiver étaient en parfaite condition .
Bien en forme . Pas du tout maigres .
Aussi bien a Pont Audemer que dans l' étang de mon pote , elles ont une belle coloration jaune dorée que nous avons attribué à la présence d' écrevisses dont elles doivent certainement se nourrir . Il en a pris au flotteur .
Ce qui expliquerait aussi que pêchant au waggler par 3 m de fond ( qui est la partie la plus profonde ) j' ai par deux fois été bredouille alors que Denis a ferré tous ses poissons au ras d' un  ilot ou il y avait moins d' un mètre d' eau et de nombreuses branches immergées qui devaient sans doute servir de caches aux écrevisses et donc de garde manger aux carpes .
Et je me pose alors la question suivante : est ce que les écrevisses hibernent dans leurs terriers pendant les mois les plus froids ?
Ça changerait tout .


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30-01-2021 09:40:24

jacky 93
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Date d'inscription: 25-08-2013

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Jack28 a écrit:

Sur la léthargie des carpes en hiver

Il est clair qu’en hiver les carpes se tiennent sur le fond en privilégiant les endroits plutôt profonds car moins sensibles au variations de température.

Concernant leur alimentation, tout dépens des ressources du plan d’eau :

- Si leur alimentation principale est constituée de crustacés, mollusques...présents l’hiver dans leur environnement, elles peuvent continuer à s’alimenter presque normalement et sans perdre de poids. En conséquence, elles restent actives.

- Dans le cas contraire, si le plan d’eau ne produit de la nourriture naturelle qu’à partir du printemps, les carpes, sans apports extérieurs, maigrissent et peuvent perdre jusqu’à 15 % de leur poids. Dans ces conditions, leur métabolisme de base fonctionne très au ralenti, à l’instar d’une personne en grève de la faim. Ce n’est qu’au printemps, lorsque les eaux commencent à se réchauffer et que leur métabolisme se remet en marche qu’elles recommencent à mordre, à partir semble-t-il de 10 à 12 degrés (t° de l’eau).

- Dans tous les cas, si les carpes ont la chance de pouvoir bénéficier régulièrement de nourriture apportée par l’homme (granulés d’élevage, maïs, pellets, graines), elles peuvent même rester en compétition alimentaire au cœur de l’hiver.

C'est ce que j'ai pu constater également quand je pêchais le Lac d'Enghien, il fallait attendre que l'eau dépasse 11/12 degrés au printemps pour qu'elles se remettent à mordre ,


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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Manni a écrit:

...
Et je me pose alors la question suivante : est ce que les écrevisses hibernent dans leurs terriers pendant les mois les plus froids ?
Ça changerait tout .

Il me semble que l'activité des écrevisses est très réduite en période froide, elles se mettent dans un trou qu'elles ont creusé ou bien sous des amas de pierres ou de branche et elles n'y sortent presques jamais, on pourrait dire qu'elles hibernent ; un peu comme la plupart des crevettes d'eau douce d'ailleurs.

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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Sujet passionnant.
Les quelques recherches que j' ai faites sur le net m' apportent plus de question que de réponses .
- La coloration jaune des carpes est elle due à la consommation de ces crustacés ( carotène ) ?
- La reproduction se fait en octobre et les juvéniles muent jusqu' à 8 fois la première année . Ce changement les rend extrêmement vulnérables aux prédateurs; poissons mais aussi spécimens adultes car cette espèce est cannibale . La mue se fait ensuite bis annuellement . Ne sous estime t on pas la part que cette espèce très prolifique représente dans l' alimentation des poisson ?
- Les écrevisses américaines , une des 4 espèces présentes dans notre pays,  ont besoin de berges verticales pour creuser des terriers qui peuvent atteindre 2 m de longueur . Cela pourrait il expliquer la forte attirance des carpes pour les bordures ?
- Les mœurs nocturnes de ces animaux ont ils une incidence sur les périodes d' activité des poissons qui sont plus intenses le matin et le soir ?
- Le fait que les écrevisses soient omnivores et détrituvores  pourrait il expliquer que les carpes soient présentes en hiver dans les zones ou les feuilles mortes s' accumulent ?
Enfin il semblerait qu' en hiver elles réduisent mais ne cessent pas leurs activités .
Que de questions sur ces animaux mal connus et dont la densité est certainement sous estimée ?


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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Manni a écrit:

Que de questions sur ces animaux mal connus et dont la densité est certainement sous estimée ?

Je pense aussi que leurs densité est sous-estimée, on voit quand même assez régulièrement de beaux spécimens au bord de l'eau.

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31-01-2021 20:57:36

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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

J ai tout fait comme le Monsieur il a dit heu écrit
eh bien ça marche du feu de dieu
https://i23.servimg.com/u/f23/12/57/60/69/img_2015.jpg
4 heures de pêche derriere chez moi  tongue
accessoirement je vais creuser la chose
en faisant de la farine, ca devrait faire une amorce à chats du tonnerre 
la cinquantaine que j ai pris en régurgitait des tombereaux  w00t

merci Messieurs et chapeau bas  original


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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

ohmy
Belle pêche.

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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Cartounet a écrit:

...
https://i23.servimg.com/u/f23/12/57/60/69/img_2015.jpg
4 heures de pêche derriere chez moi  tongue
accessoirement je vais creuser la chose
en faisant de la farine, ca devrait faire une amorce à chats du tonnerre 
la cinquantaine que j ai pris en régurgitait des tombereaux  w00t

merci Messieurs et chapeau bas  original

Bravo Cartounet, de bien belles prises pour la saison. Et je pense aussi que ça peut faire une très bonne base pour des amorces en jouant sur la granulométrie et en ajoutant quelques farines simples.

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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Pêche au feeder ? Au coup ? Coupelle ?
Quelles esches ?
En profondeur ou en bordure ?
Une pêche pareille ça mérite un développement . original


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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Manni a écrit:

Pêche au feeder ? Au coup ? Coupelle ?
Quelles esches ?
En profondeur ou en bordure ?
Une pêche pareille ça mérite un développement . original

au coup a 8m dans un canal de 15 m de large donc au plus profond  original
amorçage uniquement a la coupelle + quelques maïs à la main
j en ai pris un peu a tout -->  3 gozzers, terreau seul, maïs seul, maïs terreaux, petit babycorn sur bague et
morceau de pellet sur bague aussi
fallait changer pour avoir des touches
h de 12 sur 14/100 elastique creux de 2,4 (?)
flotteur boule en 0,8, il y avait un peu de courant

voila voila
et encore merci à vous 2 pour les tuyaux  w00t


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02-02-2021 11:12:47

Manni
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

C' est Denis le héros qu' il faut remercier moi je ne suis que le héraut  original

Ou trouves tu du petit babycorn ?
Je ne le trouve qu' en gros bouchons de 8 ou 9 mm chez Decath .


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02-02-2021 12:32:42

Seb
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Très très intéressant ce topic...
Merci pour le partage  cool
Petite question en passant : le chenevis est cru ?
Pas du tout de cuisson si j'ai bien suivi...
Je ne sais pas pourquoi mais je sens que cette recette, on va la voir souvent au bord de l'eau...  tongue
Merci
Seb
original


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Il vaut mieux fermer sa gueule et passer pour un con, plutôt que de l'ouvrir et ne laisser aucun doute à ce sujet ...
C'est une triste chose de songer que la nature parle et que le genre humain n'écoute pas. (V. Hugo)

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02-02-2021 13:23:38

Manni
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Oui le chènevis est cru car il doit conserver son huile et donc son caractère dispersant .
Le mélange est préparé la veille .
On mélange les trois produits ( chènevis dispersant - pellets neutres - babycorn collant ) en liant le tout avec de l' eau très chaude .
On mélange bien ( perceuse ?) et on obtient une amorce qui a la consistance du taboulé mais qu' on peut serrer jusqu' a lui donner celle du mastic !

J' ai posé la question au padawan Denis qui dit que la cuisson du chènevis sert à le faire germer ( qualités visuelles ) mais le dégraisse et lui ôte ses qualités gustatives

Il a utilisé du chènevis cru qu' il a fait germer naturellement et c' est d' une efficacité phénoménale .
Mais ça c' est un secret ! cool


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02-02-2021 16:37:23

benoit60
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Date d'inscription: 08-06-2005

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

He heu c'est secret aussi le producteur de Chènevis dans la Sarthe?! Nan mais comme j'y suis...si je pouvais éviter de le commander sur le net ailleurs...!

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06-02-2021 10:25:30

Cartounet
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Date d'inscription: 24-03-2004
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Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Manni a écrit:

C' est Denis le héros qu' il faut remercier moi je ne suis que le héraut  original

Ou trouves tu du petit babycorn ?
Je ne le trouve qu' en gros bouchons de 8 ou 9 mm chez Decath .

je me suis mal exprimé
en prenant le plus petit bout de bbc  que je trouvais
elles ne mordaient que sur des petites esches  original

et donc merci à Denis  w00t


Cartounet
"le pire con,c'est le vieux con, on ne peut rien contre l'expérience"

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06-02-2021 21:20:36

kedlagrosse
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Date d'inscription: 13-12-2003

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Vous ne seriez pas entrain de virer Maniac ????

3ème journée de peche Jeudi dernier . Ça drachait dur.

Même poste, même technique , même amorce , quasiment même résultat.

Petite variante pour test , j’avais congelé l’amorce inutilisée de la dernière journée:
L’amorce était plus collante , elle ne dispercait plus dans la colonne d’eau , elle restait bien compacte et la cage revenait parfois pleine . aucune dispersion constatée à la surface. 
Au bout d’une heure sans touche, j’ai repris de la patouille fraiche , préparée la veille au soir et bim ....
5 carpettes dont venues régulièrement me voir dans un laps de temps de 4h , toujours sous la flotte.

Bien sur, la patouille décongelée sera tout a fait appropriée pour la peche en fleuve ou grande rivière.

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06-02-2021 21:25:47

kedlagrosse
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Date d'inscription: 13-12-2003

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

benoit60 a écrit:

He heu c'est secret aussi le producteur de Chènevis dans la Sarthe?! Nan mais comme j'y suis...si je pouvais éviter de le commander sur le net ailleurs...!

Nan nan , ce n’est pas secret ....... mais très certainement , j’ai profité de sa dernière récolte , de très graves problème de santé ......
je vous tiendrai au courant , je suis déjà en recherche d’un autre producteur.

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06-02-2021 21:28:31

kedlagrosse
ManiaC
Date d'inscription: 13-12-2003

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

Cartounet a écrit:

Manni a écrit:

C' est Denis le héros qu' il faut remercier moi je ne suis que le héraut  original

Ou trouves tu du petit babycorn ?
Je ne le trouve qu' en gros bouchons de 8 ou 9 mm chez Decath .

je me suis mal exprimé
en prenant le plus petit bout de bbc  que je trouvais
elles ne mordaient que sur des petites esches  original

et donc merci à Denis  w00t

faut arrêter maintenant !   
Rouge écrevisse je suis !

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07-02-2021 06:16:14

benoit60
ManiaC
Date d'inscription: 08-06-2005

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

kedlagrosse a écrit:

benoit60 a écrit:

He heu c'est secret aussi le producteur de Chènevis dans la Sarthe?! Nan mais comme j'y suis...si je pouvais éviter de le commander sur le net ailleurs...!

Nan nan , ce n’est pas secret ....... mais très certainement , j’ai profité de sa dernière récolte , de très graves problème de santé ......
je vous tiendrai au courant , je suis déjà en recherche d’un autre producteur.

Oui merci Mère Denis (!) Manni m'a expliqué...! Il était à Spay ton ex-producteur?

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benoit60
ManiaC
Date d'inscription: 08-06-2005

Re: Amorce Kedlabonne

kedlagrosse a écrit:

Petite variante pour test , j’avais congelé l’amorce inutilisée de la dernière journée:
L’amorce était plus collante , elle ne dispercait plus dans la colonne d’eau , elle restait bien compacte et la cage revenait parfois pleine . aucune dispersion constatée à la surface. 
Au bout d’une heure sans touche, j’ai repris de la patouille fraiche , préparée la veille au soir et bim ....
5 carpettes dont venues régulièrement me voir dans un laps de temps de 4h , toujours sous la flotte.

Bien sur, la patouille décongelée sera tout a fait appropriée pour la peche en fleuve ou grande rivière.

Un coup d'huile de chènevis ou un peu d'amorce sèche fraiche l'aurait peut-être réactivée un peu?

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